Mother hen with bloody poop and expired coxiprol?

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Mother hen with bloody poop and expired coxiprol?

Postby eae » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:45 pm

I noticed my bantam (with 1 day old chicks) had blood on the feathers around her vent. I checked her out and there was what looked like stringy, clotty blood mixed with poop coming out her vent - she is about 10 months old. I cleaned her up, clipped the bloody feathers and put her back with the chicks. The only thing I could think to do was put some coxiprol in their water in case it was that. However, my bottle has an expiration of Feb 2015 - does this matter or should I get a new bottle on Tuesday?

Or - does this not sound like coccidiosis? Honestly I've been a bit concerned about her mothering today, and if she wasn't feeling well that would make a bit more sense. She's had the chicks out all day and has been showing them food just fine, but she's not been very good at all about letting them snuggle into her. I heard one cheeping up a storm this morning and went to check on it and it was shaking and very cold. I brought it inside and put it under a lamp for a while and it calmed down and I then put it back out with the others. But even just a while ago they were all screaming, leaning on her, trying to burrow in and it's like she just wouldn't open up her feathers. I've tried stuffing them in there myself, but that doesn't seem to work for very long.

I'll check on them at dusk and hopefully they'll be tucked inside and under her. I really don't want to be raising chicks inside and I'm not sure my GLW would accept 7 more in addition to her existing 5 :?
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Re: Mother hen with bloody poop and expired coxiprol?

Postby Foehn » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:18 pm

If they are a similar age, your wyandotte may be very accommodating. Just put them under her at night. I have 15 under mine.
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Re: Mother hen with bloody poop and expired coxiprol?

Postby Marina » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:59 pm

One of my half-sized hens raised 15 heavy breed chicks earlier this season. If she's got a nice warm house they'll be fine.

I can't read the expiry date on my Coxiprol bottle anymore - that's how old it is - and it still worked fine last season. I wouldn't hesitate to use a bottle that expired as recently as February 2015. If there was a lot of blood with tissue coming out of her vent she's in a bad shape and I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to have to deal with mothering duties. 10 months is a it old for coccidiosis and the only thing that could ahve happened is that she contracted a strain new to her - one she hasn't got tolerance for. Could it be that the eggs she was sitting on were contaminated? 3 weeks is about right fora heavy infestation to develop.

The other option is salmonella - that can lead to bleeding, too. I'd give her a good dose of Coxiprol and if it doesn't stop after 2 days it's either off to the vet for some antibiotics or you could try colloidial silver. Keep a VERY close eye on the chicks. If it is indeed salmonella the chicks will have contracted it, too. You'll see symptoms within days - cocci take longer - at least 7 days but typically 3 weeks.
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Re: Mother hen with bloody poop and expired coxiprol?

Postby eae » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:53 pm

Well, she's looking bright today and has been out with the chicks and having the mother of all dust baths. She's happily letting them snuggle in her now. I've not seen any bloody poop in the run, and only a tiny bit of new blood on her feathers yesterday morning. Hopefully whatever what was wrong is on the mend. How long should I continue the coxiprol for?

And thanks for the reassurance on using the expired product. I suspected that would be the case, but wanted to hear from others who choose to flout dates. Just last week I had a vet tell me to ignore the expiration date on a bottle of eye drops for our cat - just make sure not to touch the dropper to her eye, keep it in the fridge, and it'll be good for as long as we need it. I love people like this who deal with things practically - especially with this cat who is prone to eye issues.
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Re: Mother hen with bloody poop and expired coxiprol?

Postby Marina » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:17 pm

A BIG thumbs up for your vet! He/she could have sold you another bottle - and another one - and another one!

Coxiprol should be given for 5 days in a row. I reduce the strength after 2 days - about half of what's recommended for the last 3 days.
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