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Postby Marina » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:32 am

Just wondering whether anyone else has got experience with this: We have a 15 year old cat who's always been healthy and did her 'business' outside.

A few weeks ago she started to pee on the carpet - or in the corner beside the fridge while all doors to the outside were open. On one occasion she came inside after being outside for several hours, went straight to the fridge and peed there.

Volume wise it's a lot - BIG spot on the carpet - so no infection or anything that prevents her from holding on. She's been seen by our vet for having her teeth cleaned recently and is in excellent health for her age.

Does she do this on purpose? Old lady no longer willing to deal with dirt? Not wanting to get her paws dirty? We've put a cat loo beside the fridge now which she is using - she never scratches in there - but I prefer them to go outside and not having to clean that loo.

Do they get like that when they are older?
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Re: Old Cat

Postby ChickyMum » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:55 am

Hi Marina
I had an 11 year old cat who started to do the same thing so I can understand your frustration
Our vet said it was an age thing but our cat had other issues so she was pts, we were told that there wasnt a "cure" for the change in toileting.
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Re: Old Cat

Postby wolga » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:18 am

That sounds like a chronic kidney disease. We had this with our cat a few years back.
Signs are that they drink a lot and pee a lot. The kidneys fail to filter the toxic products
that accumulate in the blood as a result of protein breakdown. A side effect of this is that
the cat has a terrible head ache and that’s why they start peeing at odd places in the house.
An ideal diet for a cat with renal failure should have a restricted protein content. Our cat was given
some medication to get rid of the toxins in the blood and clear the head ache. This way we managed
to keep hin comfortable and pain free for another 3 years. I would definitely recommend seeing your vet about this.
Chickymum I would change to a different vet! That was not a good advise.
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Marina » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:48 pm

Thanks Chickymum and Wolga.

Our cat doesn't pee in the house often - maybe once every 2nd day. She doesn't drink more than usual.

Another one of our cats has had crystals in her urine - and that was different, too. That was managed with a diet for over 10 years (sigh). She has now passed on - liver cancer at age 12.

Mimi - the cat in question - seems healthy, alert, eating VERY well, on the same diet the other cat was as it is difficult to feed cats separately.

I think we'll observe for a little longer - but it's frustrating.

Wolga - did your cat stop peeing in the house?
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Re: Old Cat

Postby wolga » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:28 am

Yes our cat stopped peeing in the house after we started the medication and changed the
diet. We got a few more years out of him before he had to be put down.
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Re: Old Cat

Postby nzkings » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:25 pm

Once a cat has peed in a particular place, they will return time and time again. Even if you clean it with standard cleaners, they can still smell their own smell. You will need to get a pet odour remover and spray it in all the places she has left a deposit.... once that has been done, hopefully she will return to doing her business outside.
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Marina » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:27 am

Well, for now, we've put a kitty litter box into that particular corner which she is using. The other corner is in a room where we now keep the door shut. She actually comes in from outside to pee, then goes back outside again to lie in the sun. We've observed this 3 times so far. Not happy :twisted:
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Marina » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:47 pm

The mystery has been solved: When the old cat pees she's stuck - I mean, cats remain still until they've finished, making them a prefect target for a chook to be bullied. So - our cat is petrified of the big Blue Orpington hen and while she is perfectly happy to pee outside when it is dark she tries not to when the chook is out and about. Hmmmm

We also noticed that our old cat is no longer able to jump over the fence so she could pee somewhere else - in a chook free garden. But she can still come inside where it's safe :?
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Kracka » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:51 am

maybe a cat door in the fence?
assuming you can teach an old cat a new 'trick' and the Orpington doesn't use the cat door too

I wonder if it could be a tunnel of sorts would work - something with a bend in it, so the chooks can't see the other end - cats generally like tunnels
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Marina » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:12 pm

Thank you for your suggestions, Kracka. Cat has a corner behind a door outside where she sneaks in without the chook noticing. Also she's still a lot faster than the chooks so now that we know we keep an eye on Big Blue.
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Spyvee » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:29 pm

I found these posts interesting, I had a cat who lived outside most of her life and when we moved to this farm she refused to go outside and caused all sorts of problems till she died of old age. Put me of the idea of having another cat.
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Marina » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:16 am

Hi Spyvee and welcome to PC :D

Well, last night when I wanted to wrap a few birthday pressies for our daughter I noticed a disgusting smell emanating from one of the bags which I had stored a bit out of view. On closer inspection it became apparent that the old cat had peed into it, soaking the two T-shirts :twisted:
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Kracka » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:42 am

oh dear :(
I accidentally shut one of our cats in my car overnight once.... nearly fell over backwards when I opened the door! :?
cleaned up the poop, got that sorted pretty quick - but the pee, couldn't get rid of that smell for months - in desperation I poured water in the footwell & used the wet'n dry vacuum to pick up the water, all that succeeded in doing was spreading the smell further - made me very particular on parking in the shade as much as I could :shock:

none of my cats are old, I've got this to look forward to!
any chance of restricting how much of the house the cat can get to?
I've got some breeding cats - so the toms or ex-toms can never be trusted - I've got one I can let inside for about half an hour, after that he starts looking round, then he gets escorted outside :evil: He's a beautiful big teddy bear, but once they learn to spray, sadly it stays - so anyway, I don't let him down the bedrooms, only in the lounge/kitchen where I can see him - block off any little corners. But I can be firm with him (he's not old or frail) and he gets put out in the kennel with the dogs when I've had enough.

would it be worth setting up some sort of sheltered bed outside the house & just not let the old cat inside any more? might work through summer, winter might not though...
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Marina » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:28 am

Kracka - you seem to have quite a bit of experience with old cats...

For us it's a first time. We have 3 children and each child got a cat when they were primary school aged. One has already passed on (cancer) aged 12. It's not easy to make a decision.

During the warmer seasons we have doors open permanently during the day when we are at home. The cats have an outside sleeping facility (a wooden box with an old pillow) and they also sleep in the nesting boxes I have scattered aound the garden for our free ranging chooks to lay in. They spend a lot of time just lazing outside in the sun on chairs or the table - or even the BBQ - but Mimi comes in to pee :twisted: Other than locking her up outside I see no solution that does not involve some very drastic action :cry:

She still gets taken to bed and cuddled while watching TV - she purrs and smootches - and is still dearly loved by our children who leave the clean-ups to me. Her appetite is huge, no sign of aging there. Not easy :?
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Re: Old Cat

Postby Jeramanikk » Sun May 10, 2015 5:50 am

hmm im not a kitty expert but it seems that she might be stressed about something, at times when cats feel really sad or depressed they will do things to get ur attention. Thats just from my personal experience . Im not sure if u have searched google but if u google cat peeing this is the first thing that comes up
https://www.petfinder.com/cats/cat-prob ... itter-box/

I hope ur kitty is doing fine! :D
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